Legislature(2017 - 2018)SENATE FINANCE 532

02/02/2018 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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09:05:19 AM Start
09:06:51 AM SB4
09:25:02 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= SB 4 NON-CHEMICAL BARBERING;HAIR BRAIDING TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     February 2, 2018                                                                                           
                         9:05 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:05:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon called the Senate Finance Committee                                                                          
meeting to order at 9:05 a.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyman Hoffman, Co-Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Anna MacKinnon, Co-Chair                                                                                                
Senator Click Bishop, Vice-Chair                                                                                                
Senator Peter Micciche                                                                                                          
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
Senator Gary Stevens                                                                                                            
Senator Natasha von Imhof                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Rachel  Hanke, Staff,  Senator Peter  Micciche; Juli  Lucky,                                                                    
Staff,  Senator   Anna  MacKinnon;  Sara   Chambers,  Acting                                                                    
Director, Alcohol  and Marijuana Control  Office, Department                                                                    
of Commerce, Community and Economic Development.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Kevin McKinley, Chair, Board of Barbers and Hairdressers.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SB 4      NON-CHEMICAL BARBERING;HAIR BRAIDING                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          SB 4 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                      
          consideration.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 4                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act   relating  to  the   Board  of   Barbers  and                                                                    
     Hairdressers;  and relating  to  a  limited license  to                                                                    
     practice non-chemical barbering."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:06:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR PETER MICCICHE, SPONSOR, discussed the purpose of                                                                       
the bill:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Under Title  8 licensed professionals regulated  by the                                                                    
     Board of Barbers and Hairdressers  (Board) must work in                                                                    
     a licensed  shop. These  students or  practitioners are                                                                    
     required  by  statute  to conspicuously  display  their                                                                    
     licenses; however the shop owner  is not. This inequity                                                                    
     has led  to employees being fined  because, unbeknownst                                                                    
     to  them, the  shop owner's  license had  lapsed. SSSB4                                                                    
     requires the  shop owner  to conspicuously  display the                                                                    
     shop  license, as  well as  the licenses  of employees,                                                                    
     renters and students.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     By   statute,  an   individual  must   obtain  a   shop                                                                    
     certification  from  the  Department  of  Environmental                                                                    
     Conservation (DEC)  before they receive a  license from                                                                    
     the Board  of Barbers and  Hairdressers. The DEC  is no                                                                    
     longer   providing   certifications   due   to   budget                                                                    
     reductions.  SSSB4  will  allow a  DEC  standard  self-                                                                    
     certification process regulated through the Board.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Additionally,  SSSB4  creates  two new  license  types.                                                                    
     First  is a  non-chemical barber's  license. Currently,                                                                    
     all barbers  are held  to nearly  the same  standard as                                                                    
     hairdressers  and   are  required  to   have  practical                                                                    
     training  in chemical  waving, chemical  straightening,                                                                    
     bleaching, and coloring. They must  complete a total of                                                                    
     1,650   training   hours,   which  is   equivalent   to                                                                    
     hairdressers.  SSSB4   will  open  the  door   to  more                                                                    
     Alaskans   interested  in   joining  the   industry  by                                                                    
     balancing  training   requirements  and   reducing  the                                                                    
     burden.   In essence,  the bill provides  more economic                                                                    
     opportunity  and  less  government-induced  burden  for                                                                    
     hard  working   Alaskans.  The   higher-level  barber's                                                                    
     license  will remain  available  to those  who wish  to                                                                    
     perform chemical procedures.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Finally,  SSSB4  will  create a  specific  license  for                                                                    
     braiding; a trade that has  been growing in popularity.                                                                    
     Braiders are  also being held  to the same  standard as                                                                    
     hairdressers, including  the same  1,650 hours  or more                                                                    
     of practical  training in addition  to a  written exam.                                                                    
     This bill will welcome  more workers into the industry,                                                                    
     creating  jobs  and  a stronger  economy  by  balancing                                                                    
     training  requirements  to  the  specific  demands  and                                                                    
     required skills of the trade.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:10:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RACHEL  HANKE,  STAFF,  SENATOR PETER  MICCICHE,  looked  at                                                                    
Section  14. She  remarked  that there  had  been a  concern                                                                    
about  the Department  of  Environmental Conservation  (DEC)                                                                    
standards  for  cleanliness.  She stated  that  the  section                                                                    
instructed the board to adopt  the regulations for standards                                                                    
of cleanliness  for licensed establishments. She  noted that                                                                    
DEC would  still be regulating the  tattooing, piercing, and                                                                    
cosmetic coloring shops.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   MacKinnon   wondered    whether   the   testimony                                                                    
referenced  bill  version  J.   Ms.  Hanke  replied  in  the                                                                    
affirmative.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:11:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN  MCKINLEY, CHAIR,  BOARD OF  BARBERS AND  HAIRDRESSERS                                                                    
(via  teleconference),  stated  that  the  bill  fixed  some                                                                    
things that  the board had hoped  to fix for many  years. He                                                                    
shared  that  owners of  the  shops  could not  properly  be                                                                    
certified, so the  board had a quick fix that  did not allow                                                                    
for  a  long term  solution.  He  spoke  in support  of  the                                                                    
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon wondered whether  regulations could be in                                                                    
place  by  January 1,  2019.  Mr.  McKinley replied  in  the                                                                    
affirmative.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. McKinley thanked the committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Bishop  MOVED to  ADOPT the  committee substitute                                                                    
for SS SB 4, Work Draft 30-LS0078\O, Radford, 1/30/18.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:14:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JULI LUCKY,  STAFF, SENATOR ANNA MACKINNON,  stated that the                                                                    
only change  in the  committee substitute was  the effective                                                                    
date.  She  stated  that  there  was  some  language  change                                                                    
because of some changes in the statutes.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  WITHDREW her  objection. There  being NO                                                                    
OBJECTION, the proposed committee substitute was adopted.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Bishop   MOVED  Amendment   1,   30-LS0078\O.1,                                                                    
Radford, 2/1/18 (copy on file).                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Lucky explained  the amendment.  She shared  that there                                                                    
was a concern  about the repeal of  the sanitation standards                                                                    
in DEC.  She shared that  it was the understanding  that the                                                                    
board  would adopt  substantially  similar regulations.  She                                                                    
stated that that  there did not seem to  be legal difficulty                                                                    
with leaving  the regulations  in place  at DEC.  She stated                                                                    
that the  amendment left the DEC  sanitation and cleanliness                                                                    
standards in  regulation, but allowed  the board  to enforce                                                                    
to regulations.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Micciche remarked that the  board had the ability to                                                                    
choose  self-certification  through   the  regulations.  Ms.                                                                    
Lucky replied that the language  was intended to be as broad                                                                    
as  possible  to allow  the  board  to  enforce any  of  the                                                                    
regulations. She  shared that  there was  a legal  memo that                                                                    
stated that  the section was  drafted to be broad  enough to                                                                    
expressly  grant   the  board  the  power   to  enforce  all                                                                    
applicable regulations, including  the department sanitation                                                                    
regulations.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stevens  wondered whether  the board have  the power                                                                    
to  enforce  any  egregious cleanliness  issues.  Ms.  Lucky                                                                    
replied  that the  issue was  for the  underlying bill.  She                                                                    
noted that  the amendment allowed  for the board  to conduct                                                                    
hearings  and request  that the  department investigate  the                                                                    
practices of the person.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  WITHDREW her  OBJECTION. There  being NO                                                                    
OBJECTION, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Bishop discussed the fiscal notes.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:21:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SARA  CHAMBERS,  ACTING   DIRECTOR,  ALCOHOL  AND  MARIJUANA                                                                    
CONTROL  OFFICE,  DEPARTMENT   OF  COMMERCE,  COMMUNITY  AND                                                                    
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, shared that  the bill would solve some                                                                    
licensing  issues,  and   would  accomplish  the  commercial                                                                    
goals.  She  noted that  there  was  some concern  that  the                                                                    
department  was not  given authority  in the  effective date                                                                    
change to adopt fees.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:22:37 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:23:57 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SB 4 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                                
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
9:25:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 9:24 a.m.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 4 work draft version O.pdf SFIN 2/2/2018 9:00:00 AM
SB 4
SB 4 CSSSSB4 Amendment O.1.pdf SFIN 2/2/2018 9:00:00 AM
SB 4